Bryan Johnson discusses his profound experiences with 5-MEO DMT and psilocybin, describing them as powerful longevity experiments that dramatically reset his brain's default mode network, leading to a childlike state and renewed perspective. He highlights their unique efficacy compared to other longevity interventions, while also acknowledging significant risks and the philosophical implications of such deep personal transformation.
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Bryan Johnson underwent a 5-MEO DMT experience, describing it as the most powerful psychedelic, leading to "raw consciousness" and "unimaginable bliss," effectively "annihilating" his default mode network.
Psilocybin and 5-MEO DMT showed "dramatic restoration of youthful brain patterns" and a "metabolic reset" in the brain, suggesting a unique role in psychological and neurological rejuvenation beyond traditional longevity therapies.
Johnson experienced a return to a "childlike state" with emergent excitement and improved interpersonal communication, finding psychedelics "more efficacious than all" other interventions for a human "reset."
The discussion addresses significant risks like psychosis, bad trips, and dramatic life changes (e.g., quitting jobs, divorces), prompting questions about personal identity and the need for rigorous, supervised use.
Johnson is also exploring other cutting-edge longevity modalities, including mitochondrial rejuvenation, gene therapy (Foxal 3), and developing his own organoids for drug testing, seeing psychedelics as complementary for maintaining a youthful disposition.
"[5-MEO DMT] just annihilated my default more network. It felt like still Simon, dampens it, you know, like it's offensive, but this thing just annihilated my default. Turned it off, just lately."
"This was more efficacious than all of them in terms of the reset of me as a human. It just is incomparable."
"Am I the same person? Yeah. What makes Brian Brian? You can maybe recall some memories of Brian Prior to taking the psychedelic, but Brian as a person has been rewired. Yes. Are you a different person now?"