All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Can the AI Industry Regulate Itself? Stripe Wants PayPal, China Catches Up, NY Bans Datacenters

1h 30min

The episode explores the proposed AI self-regulatory organization (SRO) modeled after FINRA, which would allow frontier labs to voluntarily submit models for safety testing before release. The hosts debate its merits, warning of regulatory capture and the need to protect open source, while also discussing Stripe’s potential PayPal acquisition, Apple’s trade secrets lawsuit against OpenAI, xAI’s data leak, and New York’s dubious moratorium on hyperscale data centers.

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✨ Key Takeaways

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DeepMind CEO Demis Hasabis proposed an AI self-regulatory body (SRO) modeled after FINRA, aiming to test frontier models for catastrophic risks before release. The hosts broadly support it but demand it remain voluntary, avoid regulatory capture by big labs, and not restrict open source.
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Stripe, Advent, and Block (Square) are jointly bidding ~$60/share for PayPal, potentially combining Stripe’s merchant infrastructure, PayPal’s 439M consumer accounts, and Block’s point-of-sale to challenge Visa/MasterCard. The bid may rise to $70+.
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Apple filed a 41-page lawsuit against OpenAI, alleging that senior hires (e.g., former iPhone design VP Tang Tan) instructed job candidates to bring actual Apple parts to interviews and accessed network storage without authorization. Over 400 Apple employees have moved to OpenAI.
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A data leak in xAI’s Grok Build coding tool sent users’ entire codebases (including passwords/API keys) to xAI servers despite promises of zero transmission. xAI disabled uploads, deleted data, and open-sourced the tool’s harness.
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A new enzyme discovered via AlphaFold can degrade advanced glycation end-products (CML) in the extracellular matrix, reversing skin from >70-year-olds to ~31-year-old state. This could lead to anti-aging creams or injectables, with massive cosmetic market potential.

💬 Notable Quotes

"“The only thing you can bring to your new job is what’s in your head. Your memories. That’s fine. Whatever’s in your head, you’re allowed to take, but never leave with anything else. No thumb drives, no CDs, no documents.” — David Sacks (on Apple vs. OpenAI lawsuit)"
"“We are in a bad place right now on electrons and electricity prices. By 2050, the US will be 2.5 Californias’ worth of energy in deficit.” — Chamath Palihapitiya (on energy shortage)"
"“For the life of me, I can’t understand why Anthropic is still funding groups that want to put the kibosh on new data center construction. The number one thing slowing down their revenue is the availability of compute and data centers.” — David Sacks (on NY moratorium and Anthropic’s strategy)"