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Creating prediction markets (and suing the CFTC) with Tarek Mansour and Luana Lopes Lara

1h 16min

Kalshi co-founders Tarek Mansour and Luana Lopes Lara discuss their journey building the first CFTC-approved prediction market in the US, including their unconventional decision to sue the regulator for approval of election markets. They highlight Kalshi's rapid growth to over $10 billion in monthly volume, driven by a unique market-making model powered by "super-forecasters" rather than traditional institutions. The conversation also explores the societal benefits of prediction markets as a truth-seeking mechanism, future market verticals, and their pro-innovation, pro-regulation policy stance.

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✨ Key Takeaways

1

Regulatory First Approach

Kalshi deliberately pursued CFTC approval for four years before launching, a stark contrast to the "ask forgiveness, not permission" model, especially crucial in financial services.
2

CFTC Lawsuit

The company famously sued its primary regulator to gain approval for election markets, a high-stakes move that ultimately validated their legal interpretation and spurred significant growth.
3

"Super-Forecaster" Liquidity

Unlike traditional exchanges, over 95% of Kalshi's market liquidity comes from individual "super-forecasters" and small shops, not large institutional market makers, enabling dynamic pricing across diverse topics.
4

Rapid Growth & Impact

Kalshi has seen exponential growth, trading over $10 billion monthly, demonstrating prediction markets' potential as a more accurate and unbiased source of information in a polarized world.
5

Pro-Innovation & Pro-Regulation

Kalshi advocates for a policy framework that fosters innovation in prediction markets while prioritizing fairness, transparency, and robust customer protection, including strict insider trading rules.

💬 Notable Quotes

"I think that the approach we took from the start was that financial services or healthcare... you can't ask for forgiveness."

— Tarek Mansour
"The sharps are the market maker. I mean, they're super-aggressive. We don't limit any winners. We don't have any of the, like, we... we want all the winners."

— Luana Lopes Lara
"The incentive structure for a prediction market is truth. It is more volume, it is more liquidity, which translates to better and then more accurate forecasts."

— Tarek Mansour