Alexandr Wang, founder of Scale AI and now leading Meta’s Meta Superintelligence Labs, reveals the origin story of Muse — the fastest-growing consumer AI app to date. He details the transition from an early prototype in 1-2 weeks to a polished product after seven months of meticulous model training, and explains Meta’s flat, high-talent-density structure that empowers researchers to do their best work. Wang also shares his vision of AI as an 'escalator of agency' — restoring the ambition that life beats out of adults.
Summarized by Podsumo
Muse was built from prototype to product in seven months by a small team (<200 people) obsessively training a model on 100+ specific behaviors.
It became the fastest-growing consumer AI app ever, driven by word-of-mouth screenshots featuring the mascot 'Jolly' — not traditional ads.
Wang contrasts 'diamond mining' (high-risk, power-law payoffs) for AI research with 'skyscraper building' (operational efficiency) for data businesses.
Meta's flat, anti-bureaucratic structure lets top researchers report directly to Wang, enabling 'brilliant people just need a great environment to cook.'
Wang's vision: AI as an 'escalator of agency' — restoring the ambition that life beats out of adults.
"The world until now has been shaped by the small number of fanatics who have somehow found a way to make their wants real, but we've never seen humanity with every single person's agency fully switched on."
"How do you create an environment where brilliant people can do their best work? My job is more like a coach than a dictator."
"Muse can give everyone the adulthood they dreamed of in childhood."