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The CMO is a dying role, says Digitas' Amy Lanzi

58 min

Amy Lanzi, CEO of Digitas North America, argues that the traditional CMO role is dying and should be replaced by a Chief Growth Officer focused on data-driven business results. She discusses how AI hype mirrors programmatic advertising's empty promises, and how creators are becoming enterprises that need agency support. The conversation also covers the threat of Meta's plans to individualize Instagram's algorithm, and the rise of Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) as a key growth area.

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✨ Key Takeaways

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The traditional CMO role is dying, replaced by a Chief Growth Officer (CGO) focused on data-driven business results rather than just campaigns.
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Lanzi argues AI hype mirrors programmatic advertising's false promises, but agencies should use it to automate busy work and free up human creativity.
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Top creators are becoming enterprises (e.g., Mr. Beast) that need agency support to scale, but risk an 'influencer cliff' when they sell their own products instead of brand integrations.
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Adam Mosseri's plan to make Instagram different for every user with personalized algorithms threatens shared reality; Lanzi says consumers may disengage for human connection.
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Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) is booming as brands must influence LLMs via diverse sources like Reddit and long-form video to appear in AI answers.

💬 Notable Quotes

"_"The CMO is a dying role. And it should be. Marketing drives commercial value, marketing drives shareholder value."_ — Amy Lanzi"
"_"Creative is the new targeting... I've never heard this phrase. I don't like it. Creative is emotional and lovely and magical. How can it be emotional and magical if it's targeting you?"_ — Amy Lanzi"
"_"I think AI is misunderstood. It's a marketing problem and the problem it's solving."_ — Amy Lanzi"