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707: Mit dem System befreundet

30 min

In this episode, host Cari interviews Ivanka, a longtime listener from Ukraine who learned German at 18 and now works as a teacher in Berlin. Ivanka shares her journey from studying German in Ukraine to fleeing the 2022 war, working as an interpreter at the Jobcenter, and eventually becoming a DAZ teacher in a Willkommensklasse. She discusses the challenges and rewards of teaching refugee youth, the bureaucratic hurdles of getting her qualifications recognized, and her critical view of recent cuts to integration programs in Germany.

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✨ Key Takeaways

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Ivanka learned German at 18 in Ukraine and later became a German teacher; she passed the C2 exam and now teaches in a Berlin Oberstufenzentrum.
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She describes her relationship with German bureaucracy as being 'friends with the system' after working as a language mediator at the Jobcenter.
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She criticizes recent cuts to integration courses and Willkommensklassen, calling it paradoxical that the government demands more integration while reducing funding.
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Ivanka shares a success story of a student who, despite limited literacy, secured an apprenticeship through punctuality and reliability.
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She aspires to become a fully certified teacher in a regular class, which requires a second subject (English) and a Referendariat.

💬 Notable Quotes

"Language is one thing, but the system is another—and I am now friends with the system."

— Ivanka
"You have to be an entertainer as a teacher. We are partly actors."

— Ivanka
"Without language, integration is impossible."

— Ivanka