Eugenia Kuda, founder of Replica and Wabi, discusses the launch of Wabi 2.0, a personal AI agent that emphasizes multiplayer experiences with shared chats and dynamic mini-apps. Unlike single-threaded assistants like Meta's Muse and Instinct, Wabi organizes life into multiple threads and aims to bring people together rather than isolating them with AI. The conversation also covers privacy, compute cost management, and the crowded AI assistant market.
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Wabi 2.0 launches as a multiplayer AI assistant that allows shared chats with family/friends and builds mini-apps on the fly based on user goals.
The app uses multiple threads (e.g., kids, health, travel) to keep conversations organized and avoid context overload—unlike single-thread rivals like Muse and Instinct.
Wabi focuses on helping people spend time better (e.g., discovering events, tracking goals) rather than just productivity, aiming to bring people together rather than isolating them with AI.
Eugenia’s team prioritizes data privacy, building on a proven track record from Replica (40M+ users, no data incidents), and uses low-cost deterministic apps to manage compute expenses.
The agent proactively creates shared calendars, book lists, and other apps by reading connected accounts (Gmail, calendar) but does not store email data permanently.
"AI agents should bring people together, not give people more reasons to spend time alone with AI."
— Eugenia Kuda
"We're trying to shift away from an agent that's just focused on productivity... it should help people spend time better."
— Eugenia Kuda
"The phone seems to be a perfectly fine way to do that."
— Eugenia Kuda (on hardware for AI assistants)