HBR IdeaCast

Staying Principled in a Time of Uncertainty

33 min

Ken Chenault, former CEO of American Express, discusses how leaders can navigate uncertainty while staying true to core principles. He argues that business has a fundamental responsibility to society and that CEOs must identify their company's core values and defend them, even amid political backlash. He shares lessons from his leadership during the 9/11 and 2008 financial crises, offers advice on fostering innovation and listening, and provides guidance for new CEOs on succession and building trust.

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✨ Key Takeaways

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Chenault's leadership maxim is 'define reality and give hope,' and during the 2008 crisis he focused on three simple objectives: stay liquid, stay profitable, and selectively invest in growth.
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He believes business exists because society allows it, and CEOs must speak out when core values are threatened – but not on every issue.
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On DEI, Chenault advises CEOs not to abandon core commitments due to political pressure; they should articulate a rationale and stick to their principles.
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To foster innovation, he created small cross-functional teams and encouraged cannibalizing existing businesses to meet customer needs.
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Chenault improved his listening skills after receiving feedback he 'zoned out' – a habit that took two years to change, but made him a more effective leader.

💬 Notable Quotes

"The role of a leader is to define reality and give hope."

— Ken Chenault
"If you want to build an enduring company, you should have, in fact, a selfish incentive to have a healthy society."

— Ken Chenault
"If they're going to change their emphasis depending on who is in elective office, then from my standpoint, they don't really have any core commitments."

— Ken Chenault