Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Ramtin Naimi on the State of Venture Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.499]

48 min

The episode features Ramtin Naimi discussing the current state of venture investing, characterized by an incredibly fast-paced market where rounds close in weeks, follow-on financings occur at 3-5x valuations, and mega-funds deploy capital at 3x the expected rate. Naimi contrasts this cycle with 2021, noting that while frothiness is similar, today's companies show real value creation with unprecedented growth rates and margin improvement, though revenue quality often requires careful scrutiny.

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✨ Key Takeaways

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Rounds are happening at breakneck speed with 'cuck tranches'—secondary investors paying 3-5x to get into deals they missed, a necessary but potentially unsustainable dynamic.
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Mega-funds are raising 2-3x more capital than initially planned, with some deploying $2.5B in just 6 months and returning to market for $5B more, as LPs face liquidity concentration in a few names like SpaceX and Anthropic.
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The market shows both frothiness (6.5-7/10) and real innovation (10/10), with 2021's frothiness at 10/10 but lacking today's genuine technological shifts like BCI and AI-native biotech.
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Data companies remain a conundrum—their margins are low (15-20%) due to data collection costs, but demand is insatiable from model builders, leading to two camps: data-as-endgame vs data-as-means-to-finance-robotics research.
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Naimi advises focusing on proactive investing (backing non-obvious ideas) over reactive, as the best returns come from founders working on markets that aren't yet obvious, like Conduit's BCI or Etched's chips.

💬 Notable Quotes

"If you just think that as a product, like it's done really well. What I'm wondering is, do we need like way more things like that for each type of spending that's happening in these companies? Lots of which is panic buying or reserving of compute ahead of anticipated demand."
"I think the most interesting segment of the market...is sort of the Neolab segment, where people started looking at Neolabs and there was going to be like two or three great ones. And now there's probably 80 or 90 Neo Labs that have raised somewhere between one to five billion dollars."
"Being reactive, if you pick correctly, allows you to be a top quartile manager. And I think being proactive allows you to be a top 5% manager. Being proactive means trying to back great founders working on markets that aren't yet obvious."