The Capital Cycle Podcast

DeepSequel

22 min

This episode of the Capital Cycle Podcast features Edward Chancellor and Laura Fife discussing China's rapid technological advances across multiple sectors, challenging the assumption that high-tech moats are unassailable. They analyze how Chinese competitors like DeepSeek and Chery have slashed costs and disrupted incumbents, particularly in AI and autos, while also exploring vulnerabilities in memory chips and even ASML's EUV lithography. The discussion concludes with strategies for identifying moats that can withstand Chinese competition, including network effects and geographically unique assets.

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✨ Key Takeaways

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DeepSeek's R1 LLM replicated frontier AI capability at one-tenth the cost, causing NVIDIA to lose $600 billion in market cap.
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Chinese carmaker Chery's JQ 7 became the UK's best-selling car in March, outperforming the far more expensive Range Rover Evoque in plug-in range at a third of the price.
3

Chinese memory maker CXMT is scaling DRAM production to challenge Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron, threatening their 95% global supply share and supernormal profits.
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China's EUV lithography handicap is estimated at just five years, down from previous assumptions, posing a potential threat to ASML's monopoly.
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Chinese firms like Sany Heavy Industry and Tencent exhibit durable moats through global cost advantages and network effects, respectively, offering immunity from low-cost competition.

💬 Notable Quotes

"Capability that was assumed to require vast capital, talent that was really scarce, and the best chips was actually replicated at one-tenth of the cost and then given away."

— Laura Fife
"True inimitability is rare and it rarely endures. DeepSeek dramatized our long-held belief that supernormal returns tend to invite competition."

— Laura Fife
"The discipline is to distinguish the more underwhelming barriers of capital and time, which Chinese companies have preyed on, from the genuinely scarce ones."

— Laura Fife